Venus, then. If the Devil is nature, and the plants are the demons and devils... I understand. It doesn't seem as insidious as he described, then.
Though... if it's something God wouldn't like that is a sin, that seems far too arbitrary. Or perhaps it just seems that way to me? What's to stop God from changing his mind on a whim? Does everyone know when he does?
I apologize for asking so many questions - we have mediums and High Priests to communicate with the gods in my world. They tend to be quite in touch with the sun goddess and the moon god, but... they're mortals, not... divine? And we're usually told through prophecies and the like.
haha. see? you're starting to get it. questions like that are how people find the devil in the first place. and people like him are how they try to stop you. it's just like you said. it's arbitrary, he can change it on a whim, it depends on what people say it is it's awful. it's the worst. i hate even thinking about it.
anyway don't apologize!! or at least don't if you don't want to it's fine. i kind of like being asked questions like this it's way easier than trying to figure out how to say things on my own
[ Because, really, that's not something he wants to do. The world is cruel and horrible enough already without him offending or making the Devil feel bad. Just because he's faithless doesn't mean he's heartless. ]
I'm not sure I could follow that kind of thinking.
Why do people do so?
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i mean, it sucks? but what other choice do we have i'd rather it hurt me than not feel anything about it. i don't think i could live with myself if it didn't hurt
and as for why... i think there's a lot of answers to that? a lot of people don't know they have other options sometimes people are just afraid of things and sometimes they really, truly believe everything they're saying those are the worst kind
where you're from, is it really nothing like this? nothing god tells you to do? you don't have to do things that hurt people because it's the right thing to do?
The gods my friends worship do not have the same relationship with their followers as you describe, and there are many gods to believe in. The moon god and the sun goddess are two of the most prominent from my understanding, but... religion is not usually the reason people are hurt. Certainly others disagree - there are two religions my friends are a part of and they tend to get heated when they speak of either one. There's always something that's 'wrong' or something that's 'right'... I can't quite understand why.
My world isn't devoid of the influence you're speaking of. My people have been said to be beasts that need to be brought to heel or killed, but it is in the name of 'civil society' or 'for the sake of humanity'... not often gods or religion. Sometimes 'in the name of progress'.
people die over wrong and right and even the living ones get hurt by it. you know? civil society, humanity's sake it's all the same thing. they're doing god's will whether they intend to or not
not really progress tho god's not usually as into that one? usually that comes with like, science and evolution and stuff
It's usually said to be a human versus beasts battle - not one against religion or for it, but... I can see your stance on it. Certainly it's not just a select few who are hurt: it affects all in society.
Though I am confused. Would God not want his disciples to progress and learn?
"humans versus beasts." right there. see? maybe it's not the same as my religion the religion that once was mine, i guess but it's still wrapped up in it
of course god wants his disciples to progress and learn. just not in the wrong ways. and there's a lot of wrong ways. too many to ever remember, honestly.
[ That seems... a little strange? How would a human versus beasts battle be based in religion? After all, they weren't human, they did have aspects of animals. He just didn't think that meant that humans should treat them as lesser. She seems to be pretty adamant on that, though. ]
I suppose I just don't understand this 'God'. There seem to be too many arbitrary rules, and changing ideals to follow him. Is all religion like this?
[ maybe it's not the same after all. but when you're the devil with a hammer, every problem looks like christ's nails. was that too sacrilegious? am i going to hell? signs point to yes. ]
probably? i mean. i don't know. maybe not. some religions don't even have devils, i don't think and if there's no evil then i don't know how you could get all holier than thou about being good.
i sort of wish i knew more about this kind of thing. or anything. haha
I know the feeling. I feel as if I'm floundering in this new world with all its strange information. ... thank you, for all you've said. It's enlightening, if... worrying.
If there's anything I could do to help you in return, please let me know.
no problem. really. i'm not any good with words like this but i want to try anyway? i want to help people if i can so if you got something out of this that's all i can really ask for, i think. :)
i don't really need anything i don't think? also it seems kind of weird to like. ask for a favor just for explaining myself i don't know. is that not a dick move?
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Though... if it's something God wouldn't like that is a sin, that seems far too arbitrary. Or perhaps it just seems that way to me? What's to stop God from changing his mind on a whim? Does everyone know when he does?
I apologize for asking so many questions - we have mediums and High Priests to communicate with the gods in my world. They tend to be quite in touch with the sun goddess and the moon god, but... they're mortals, not... divine? And we're usually told through prophecies and the like.
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questions like that are how people find the devil in the first place.
and people like him are how they try to stop you.
it's just like you said. it's arbitrary, he can change it on a whim, it depends on what people say it is
it's awful. it's the worst. i hate even thinking about it.
anyway
don't apologize!! or at least don't if you don't want to
it's fine. i kind of like being asked questions like this
it's way easier than trying to figure out how to say things on my own
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[ Because, really, that's not something he wants to do. The world is cruel and horrible enough already without him offending or making the Devil feel bad. Just because he's faithless doesn't mean he's heartless. ]
I'm not sure I could follow that kind of thinking.
Why do people do so?
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i'd rather it hurt me than not feel anything about it.
i don't think i could live with myself if it didn't hurt
and as for why...
i think there's a lot of answers to that?
a lot of people don't know they have other options
sometimes people are just afraid of things
and sometimes they really, truly believe everything they're saying
those are the worst kind
where you're from, is it really nothing like this?
nothing god tells you to do?
you don't have to do things that hurt people because it's the right thing to do?
<3 hi again!
My world isn't devoid of the influence you're speaking of. My people have been said to be beasts that need to be brought to heel or killed, but it is in the name of 'civil society' or 'for the sake of humanity'... not often gods or religion. Sometimes 'in the name of progress'.
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and even the living ones get hurt by it. you know?
civil society, humanity's sake
it's all the same thing. they're doing god's will whether they intend to or not
not really progress tho
god's not usually as into that one?
usually that comes with like, science and evolution and stuff
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It's usually said to be a human versus beasts battle - not one against religion or for it, but... I can see your stance on it. Certainly it's not just a select few who are hurt: it affects all in society.
Though I am confused. Would God not want his disciples to progress and learn?
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maybe it's not the same as my religion
the religion that once was mine, i guess
but it's still wrapped up in it
of course god wants his disciples to progress and learn.
just not in the wrong ways.
and there's a lot of wrong ways.
too many to ever remember, honestly.
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I suppose I just don't understand this 'God'.
There seem to be too many arbitrary rules, and changing ideals to follow him.
Is all religion like this?
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probably?
i mean. i don't know. maybe not.
some religions don't even have devils, i don't think
and if there's no evil then i don't know how you could get all holier than thou about being good.
i sort of wish i knew more about this kind of thing.
or anything. haha
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... thank you, for all you've said. It's enlightening, if... worrying.
If there's anything I could do to help you in return, please let me know.
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i'm not any good with words like this but i want to try anyway?
i want to help people if i can
so if you got something out of this that's all i can really ask for, i think. :)
i don't really need anything i don't think?
also it seems kind of weird to like. ask for a favor just for explaining myself
i don't know. is that not a dick move?
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In which case, I did not actually exchange anything with you - thus, my offer.